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Bug 5563 - User:pages namespace linked on Live Category:lists pages


Summary:	User:pages namespace linked on Live Category:lists pages

Status:	RESOLVED INVALID

Product:	Wikimedia
Classification:	Unclassified
Component:	Interwiki links (Other open bugs)
Version:	unspecified
Hardware:	All All

Importance:	Normal normal (vote)
Target Milestone:	---
Assigned To:	Nobody - You can work on this!

URL:	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category...
Whiteboard:
Keywords:

Depends on:
Blocks:
	Show dependency tree / graph

Reported:	2006-04-13 16:40 UTC by Dennis Lowell
Modified:	2006-04-13 23:34 UTC (History)
CC List:	0 users

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Description Dennis Lowell 2006-04-13 16:40:11 UTC

Example from URL (April 13, 2006):
  B
  Brooklyn Bridge
  User:Shlomke/sandbox
  C
  Castle Clinton

User User:Shlomke/sandbox copied the content from the Brooklyn Bridge 
article (including the Category links at the bottom) into his Sandbox for 
edit on March 05. Since then a link to User:Shlomke/sandbox has appeared 
on each of the 9 live Category pages included in his editing draft of the 
Brooklyn Bridge article.

Not sure if this is a design flaw or an anomaly in the "business rules" 
but I'm sure that you don't want pages in the User namespace to be 
indexed by the Category List engines.

Comment 1 Dennis Lowell 2006-04-13 16:45:49 UTC

Didn't mean to triage Severity...it's not my place to determine the 
importance of a bug on your site. My faux pas. Sorry.

Comment 2 Andrew Culver 2006-04-13 16:48:24 UTC

This is intended. You can put <noinclude></noinclude> around the
[[Category:whatever]] in Brooklyn Bridge to prevent them from being included.

Comment 3 Dennis Lowell 2006-04-13 17:09:44 UTC

Sorry, just tested your suggestion and it doesn't work.

I copied the content from the [[Grace Church]] article (including the Category
Links) to my User:Drlowell page and added <noinclude></noinclude> tags (you may
look at the source in the versions if you like). After each save my User page
appeared on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Registered_Historic_Places_in_New_York
  G
  User:Drlowell
  Grace Church
  Grant's Tomb
  H
  Hamilton Grange National Memorial

I'm certain this is not intended. Please work through the example step by step
to see for yourself. I will revert my user page so it's not being picked up by
the Category page generator.

BTW - Thanks for the qick response.

Comment 4 Rob Church 2006-04-13 19:38:20 UTC

If an unescaped* [[Category:Foo]] tag exists on a page, it is categorised; this
is intended behaviour.

* as in, not wrapped in a tag that will cause it to be ignored or stripped out
of the markup at parse time

Comment 5 Brion Vibber 2006-04-13 19:38:44 UTC

<noinclude> affects includes, not copying.

It's normal and desireable to be able to categorize user pages, this is 
regularly done.

Comment 6 Dennis Lowell 2006-04-13 20:36:02 UTC

Am I being unclear?

The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shlomke is following the websites editing
advice which suggests making our edits on a Sandbox page so it doesn't interfere
with the live articles in the Main:namespace. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shlomke/Sandbox. I'm certain that he/she
didn't intend to have their Sandbox page indexed on 9 Category pages when they
started editing the Brooklyn Bridge atricle on March 05, 2006. However, because
they copied the full content of the article (including the Category links) their
Sandbox page is now being indexed in several places in the Main:namespace. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Registered_Historic_Places_in_New_York and
look directly below the Brooklyn Brige link.

I'm suret the engine or process that picks up the tag for the categories works
as intended. <U>The process is flawed</U>. I think <U>it is a design
oversight</U>. Should the Editing guidelines be update to warn Users not to copy
the category links to their Sandbox pages? Or should someone try to get the
policy changed to avoid indexing pages from the User:namespace in the
Main:namespace? Or should I just start smoking crack again?

Comment 7 Brion Vibber 2006-04-13 21:43:12 UTC

It is deliberate, useful, and used that you can categorize user pages.
This is normal. This is not a bug. This is not a flaw. This is not a
design oversight.

Comment 8 Dennis Lowell 2006-04-13 23:34:36 UTC

I disagree. But it's clear that I'm alone in my opinion. Thanks for 
spending time looking at this.

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